Hulk Have Trouble Counting

HULK CAN COUNT TO SIX, THOUGH …
The Marvel Comics character, Hulk first appeared in his own title, The Incredible Hulk Volume 1 Issue # 1 (Hulk, The Incredible 01 0001) in May, 1962. That original series was soon cancelled, though, with Volume 1 Issue # 6 (Hulk, The Incredible 01 0006) being the last in March, 1963.


The Incredible Hulk Volume 1 Issue # 1
(Hulk, The Incredible 01 0001)

Hulk, The Incredible 01 0001
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0002
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0003
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0004
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0005
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0006

HULK ASTONISHED
Nevertheless, the character was popular enough to continue appearing in other Marvel comics, first in Fantastic Four Volume 1 Issue # 12 (Fantastic Four 01 0012) in March, 1963, then becoming a founding member of The Avengers in The Avengers Volume 1 Issue # 1 (Avengers 01 0001) in September, 1963 and Volume 1 Issue # 2 (Avengers 01 0002) in November, 1963.

The character continued to appear in various titles – indeed, he appeared in the very next issue of The Avengers (Avengers 01 0003) – and his popularity soon grew to the point where the powers-that-be at Marvel decided to make him one of the two title/feature characters in Tales to Astonish, with Tales to Astonish Volume 1 Issue # 60 (Tales to Astonish 01 0060) in October, 1964 being his first issue there as a title/feature character.


Tales to Astonish Volume 1 Issue # 60
(Tales to Astonish 01 0060)

The Hulk continued as a feature character in Tales to Astonish until the book's final issue, Tales to Astonish Volume 1 Issue # 101 (Tales to Astonish 01 0101). The book was renamed the following month (but kept the same numbering convention as opposed to going back to Issue # 1) so that in April, 1968, The Incredible Hulk Volume 1 Issue # 102 (Hulk, The Incredible 01 0102) was released, with the Hulk (obviously) the main character.


The Incredible Hulk Volume 1 Issue # 102
(Hulk, The Incredible 01 0102)

If someone were to compile a list of The Incredible Hulk's main title appearances, the above would explain why an apparent 'gap' exists between Issue # 7 (there wasn't one) and Issue # 102 (where the same title kind of 'picked itself up', though it carried a little bit of the history of Tales to Astonish with its numbering system … presumably because the Hulk's so strong 😆 ).

On an aside, some people have chosen to consider Tales to Astonish Volume 1 Issue # 1 (Tales to Astonish 01 0001) through to Tales to Astonish Volume 1 Issue # 101 (Tales to Astonish 01 0101) as the 'missing issues' of The Incredible Hulk for the sake of chronology. Although a case can be made that this makes The Incredible Hulk Volume 1 Issue # 600 (Hulk, The Incredible 01 0600) the actual 600th[/sub] issue (more on that later), it ignores the original six issues: The Incredible Hulk Volume 1 Issue # 1 (Hulk, The Incredible 01 0001), May, 1962 through to The Incredible Hulk Volume 1 Issue # 6 (Hulk, The Incredible 01 0006), March, 1963.

Of course, a case could be made that (although they weren't published as such) these issues could be considered a limited series (quite often the standard way Marvel – and, indeed, most other comic book companies – trials a character … to test the waters before deciding upon if a regular series would be worth publishing or not).

The only trouble with that theory is that those early issues of Tales to Astonish didn't have anything to do with The Hulk. In fact, The Hulk didn't actually appear in Tales to Astonish at all until Issue # 59 (Tales to Astonish 01 0059), where he opposed Giant-Man in the issue before his official title/feature character appearance in Issue # 60 (Tales to Astonish 01 0060).

So, although it kind of makes things difficult to keep track of, I, personally consider this 'Hulk Numbering Situation' a lot like the whole 'Tales to Astonish/Thor Numbering Situation' (which I'll now have to write a post about in the future) … in this case, I'm gonna go with the following:

The Incredible Hulk Volume 1 Issue # 1 (Hulk, The Incredible 01 0001) to The Incredible Hulk Volume 1 Issue # 6 (Hulk, The Incredible 01 0006), then an 'inexplicable' gap until The Incredible Hulk Volume 1 Issue # 102 (Hulk, The Incredible 01 0102).

In any case, The Hulk continued in his regular series until March, 1999 when the title was cancelled with The Incredible Hulk Volume 1 Issue # 474 (Hulk, The Incredible 01 0474).


The Incredible Hulk Volume 1 Issue # 474
(Hulk, The Incredible 01 0474)

An obsessive-compulsive would probably write the list of Hulk comics thus far like this:

Hulk, The Incredible 01 0001
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0002
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0003
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0004
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0005
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0006

… deliberate 'inexplicable' gap that's been explained … let us never speak of it again …

Hulk, The Incredible 01 0102
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0103
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0104
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0105
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0106
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0107
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0108
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0109
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0110
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0111
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0112
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0113
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0114
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0115
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0116
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0117
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0118
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0119
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0120
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0121
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0122
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0123
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0124
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0125
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0126
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0127
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0128
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0129
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0130
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0131
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0132
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0133
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0134
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0135
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0136
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0137
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0138
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0139
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0140
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0141
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0142
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0143
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0144
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0145
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0146
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0147
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0148
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0149
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0150
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0151
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0152
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0153
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0154
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0155
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0156
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0157
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0158
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0159
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0160
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0161
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0162
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0163
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0164
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0165
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0166
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0167
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0168
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0169
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0170
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0171
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0172
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0173
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0174
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0175
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0176
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0177
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0178
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0179
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0180
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0181
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0182
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0183
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0184
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0185
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0186
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0187
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0188
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0189
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0190
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0191
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0192
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0193
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0194
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0195
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0196
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0197
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0198
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0199
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0200
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0201
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0202
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0203
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0204
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0205
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0206
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0207
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0208
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0209
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0210
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0211
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0212
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0213
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0214
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0215
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0216
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0217
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0218
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0219
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0220
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0221
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0222
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0223
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0224
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0225
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0226
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0227
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0228
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0229
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0230
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0231
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0232
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0233
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0234
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0235
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0236
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0237
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0238
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0239
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0240
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0241
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0242
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0243
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0244
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0245
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0246
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0247
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0248
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0249
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0250
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0251
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0252
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0253
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0254
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0255
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0256
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0257
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0258
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0259
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0260
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0261
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0262
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0263
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0264
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0265
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0266
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0267
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0268
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0269
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0270
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0271
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0272
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0273
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0274
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0275
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0276
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0277
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0278
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0279
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0280
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0281
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0282
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0283
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0284
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0285
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0286
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0287
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0288
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0289
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0290
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0291
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0292
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0293
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0294
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0295
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0296
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0297
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0298
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0299
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0300
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0301
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0302
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0303
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0304
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0305
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0306
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0307
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0308
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0309
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0310
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0311
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0312
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0313
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0314
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0315
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0316
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0317
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0318
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0319
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0320
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0321
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0322
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0323
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0324
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0325
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0326
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0327
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0328
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0329
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0330
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0331
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0332
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0333
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0334
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0335
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0336
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0337
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0338
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0339
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0340
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0341
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0342
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0343
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0344
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0345
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0346
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0347
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0348
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0349
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0350
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0351
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0352
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0353
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0354
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0355
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0356
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0357
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0358
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0359
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0360
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0361
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0362
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0363
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0364
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0365
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0366
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0367
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0368
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0369
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0370
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0371
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0372
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0373
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0374
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0375
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0376
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0377
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0378
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0379
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0380
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0381
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0382
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0383
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0384
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0385
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0386
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0387
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0388
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0389
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0390
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0391
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0392
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0393
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0394
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0395
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0396
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0397
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0398
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0399
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0400
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0401
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0402
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0403
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0404
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0405
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0406
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0407
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0408
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0409
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0410
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0411
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0412
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0413
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0414
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0415
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0416
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0417
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0418
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0419
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0420
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0421
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0422
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0423
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0424
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0425
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0426
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0427
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0428
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0429
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0430
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0431
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0432
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0433
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0434
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0435
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0436
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0437
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0438
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0439
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0440
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0441
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0442
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0443
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0444
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0445
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0446
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0447
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0448
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0449
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0450
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0451
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0452
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0453
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0454
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0455
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0456
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0457
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0458
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0459
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0460
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0461
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0462
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0463
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0464
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0465
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0466
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0467
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0468
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0469
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0470
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0471
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0472
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0473
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0474

HULK NOT INCREDIBLE?
Being the strongest one there is, The Hulk didn't let a little thing like cancellation stop him. In fact, he was back the very next month (April, 1999) with a second volume, simply titled Hulk Volume 2 Issue # 1 (Hulk, The Incredible 01 0475; 02 0001). I know, I know … some folks consider this a completely separate title and feel it should be Volume 1, since it's missing 'The Incredible'. I don't. More on that later …


The Incredible Hulk Volume 2 Issue # 1
(Hulk, The Incredible 01 0475)

Hulk must have done some smashing, because it left everyone at Marvel (not to mention people trying to figure out this whole numbering business) confused; this second volume lasted eleven issues – not counting Hulk Volume 2 Issue # 0.5 No Escape (Hulk, The Incredible 01 0475.5; 02 0000.5) – before finishing in February, 2000 with Hulk Volume 2 Issue # 11 (Hulk, The Incredible 01 0485; 02 0011).


The Incredible Hulk Volume 2 Issue # 11
(Hulk, The Incredible 01 0485)

Hulk, The Incredible 01 0474.5; 02 0000.5 No Escape (I don't like it any more than you do … 'point five' of an issue … Jesus … )
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0475; 02 0001
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0476; 02 0002
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0477; 02 0003
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0478; 02 0004
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0479; 02 0005
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0480; 02 0006
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0481; 02 0007
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0482; 02 0008
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0483; 02 0009
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0484; 02 0010
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0485; 02 0011

HULK IS TOO INCREDIBLE, SO THERE!
The simple fact is, The Hulk was far too incredible to manage without the actual words 'The Incredible' in front of his name, which is why – the very next month (in March, 2000) – it changed back to The Incredible Hulk, now considered Volume 3 (by me, anyway). Curiously, it 'started' with Issue # 12 (Hulk, The Incredible 01 0486; 03 0012). I don't know. Shut up.


The Incredible Hulk Volume 3 Issue # 12
(Hulk, The Incredible 01 0486)

This ran up until issue # 112 (Hulk, The Incredible 01 0586; 03 0112) …

Hulk, The Incredible 01 0486; 03 0012
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0487; 03 0013
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0488; 03 0014
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0489; 03 0015
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0490; 03 0016
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0491; 03 0017
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0492; 03 0018
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0493; 03 0019
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0494; 03 0020
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0495; 03 0021
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0496; 03 0022
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0497; 03 0023
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0498; 03 0024
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0499; 03 0025
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0500; 03 0026
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0501; 03 0027
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0502; 03 0028
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0503; 03 0029
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0504; 03 0030
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0505; 03 0031
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0506; 03 0032
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0507; 03 0033
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0508; 03 0034
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0509; 03 0035
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0510; 03 0036
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0511; 03 0037
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0512; 03 0038
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0513; 03 0039
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0514; 03 0040
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0515; 03 0041
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0516; 03 0042
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0517; 03 0043
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0518; 03 0044
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0519; 03 0045
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0520; 03 0046
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0521; 03 0047
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0522; 03 0048
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0523; 03 0049
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0524; 03 0050
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0525; 03 0051
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0526; 03 0052
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0527; 03 0053
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0528; 03 0054
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0529; 03 0055
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0530; 03 0056
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0531; 03 0057
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0532; 03 0058
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0533; 03 0059
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0534; 03 0060
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0535; 03 0061
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0536; 03 0062
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0537; 03 0063
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0538; 03 0064
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0539; 03 0065
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0540; 03 0066
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0541; 03 0067
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0542; 03 0068
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0543; 03 0069
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0544; 03 0070
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0545; 03 0071
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0546; 03 0072
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0547; 03 0073
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0548; 03 0074
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0549; 03 0075
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0550; 03 0076
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0551; 03 0077
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0552; 03 0078
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0553; 03 0079
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0554; 03 0080
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0555; 03 0081
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0556; 03 0082
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0557; 03 0083
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0558; 03 0084
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0559; 03 0085
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0560; 03 0086
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0561; 03 0087
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0562; 03 0088
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0563; 03 0089
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0564; 03 0090
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0565; 03 0091
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0566; 03 0092
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0567; 03 0093
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0568; 03 0094
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0569; 03 0095
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0570; 03 0096
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0571; 03 0097
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0572; 03 0098
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0573; 03 0099
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0574; 03 0100
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0575; 03 0101
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0576; 03 0102
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0577; 03 0103
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0578; 03 0104
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0579; 03 0105
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0580; 03 0106
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0581; 03 0107
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0582; 03 0108
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0583; 03 0109
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0584; 03 0110
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0585; 03 0111
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0586; 03 0112


The Incredible Hulk Volume 3 Issue # 112
(Hulk, The Incredible 01 0586)

HERC … HERC … PARDON HULK, HULK MUST HAVE HICCUPS …
… whereupon it underwent yet another title change, this time to The Incredible Hercules. Proving once again that the people at Marvel have just a little difficulty with their basic counting skills, the first issue of The Incredible Hercules (which could, theoretically, be considered Volume 4 of Hercules … and another post in the future 😆 ) was Issue # 113.

Here's the curious thing: Anyone who's been paying attention will notice that I've mentioned The Incredible Hulk Volume 1, Issue # 600 (Hulk, The Incredible 01 0600) above, and could safely make the assumption that the title was changed back to The Incredible Hulk before that issue (or as of that issue … whatever). And it would be quite logical to assume that The Incredible Hercules turns back into The Incredible Hulk at some point, wouldn't it?

In fact, The Incredible Hercules did finish … but it finished with issue # 141 (and went on from there with a couple of limited series … more on that elsewhere). If Marvel was 'paralleling' the numbering of these issues with The Incredible Hulk in the hopes of changing the title back with the 'big number issue' of 600, that would mean that the last issue of The Incredible Hercules (141) would be … The Incredible Hulk # 615?!

For those who don't believe me …

Example Below
(Don't Use These Figures for Real, Folks)

Hulk, The Incredible 01 0587; Hercules 113
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0588; Hercules 114
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0589; Hercules 115
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0590; Hercules 116
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0591; Hercules 117
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0592; Hercules 118
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0593; Hercules 119
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0594; Hercules 120
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0595; Hercules 121
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0596; Hercules 122
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0597; Hercules 123
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0598; Hercules 124
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0599; Hercules 125
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0600; Hercules 126
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0601; Hercules 127
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0602; Hercules 128
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0603; Hercules 129
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0604; Hercules 130
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0605; Hercules 131
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0606; Hercules 132
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0607; Hercules 133
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0608; Hercules 134
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0609; Hercules 135
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0610; Hercules 136
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0611; Hercules 137
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0612; Hercules 138
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0613; Hercules 139
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0614; Hercules 140
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0615; Hercules 141

Hang on … somethin' ain't right …

HULK NOT BLUSHING … AND HULK CAN'T GET SUNBURN … WHAT THE … ?
In fact, the only way for it to work is if we consider the (at the time) newly-created character of Red Hulk (spoiler – it's General Ross … and Red She-Hulk is Betty).

Taking the first issue, simply titled, Hulk Volume 1 Issue # 1 (Hulk, Red 01 0001 – oh, what a difference an 'Incredible' makes), which came out in January, 2008 … and considering it The Incredible Hulk Volume 1 Issue # 587 (Hulk, The Incredible 01 0587; Red 01 0001), we can go from there through to Hulk Volume 1 Issue # 13 (June, 2009) and consider it The Incredible Hulk Volume 1 Issue # 599 (Hulk, The Incredible 01 0599; Hulk, Red 01 0013), thus paving the way for The Incredible Hulk Volume 1 Issue # 600 (Hulk, The Incredible 01 0600) in September, 2009.

(The Red Hulk continues in the separate title, Hulk Volume 1, Issue # 14 (Hulk, Red 01 0014), by the way. It's 'officially' listed as Hulk 'Volume 2' because Volume 1 of Hulk was that handful of issues back in 1999/2000, where someone left out 'The Incredible'. Me? I've decided to completely ignore all that and consider those handful of issues 'Volume 2' anyway (go back and check … I'll wait). I've also decided to do this because Hulk Volume 2 is primarily about the Red Hulk (do not say 'Rulk' or Hulk will smash … Hulk hates the name 'Rulk' … stupid fucking name … ), and I'd prefer to catalogue it as such (Hulk, Red 01 0014).

It'd look something like this:


Hulk Volume 1 Issue # 1
(Hulk, The Incredible 01 0587; Hulk, Red 01 0001)

Hulk, The Incredible 01 0587; Hulk, Red 01 0001
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0588; Hulk, Red 01 0002
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0589; Hulk, Red 01 0003
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0590; Hulk, Red 01 0004
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0591; Hulk, Red 01 0005
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0592; Hulk, Red 01 0006
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0593; Hulk, Red 01 0007
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0594; Hulk, Red 01 0008
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0595; Hulk, Red 01 0009
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0596; Hulk, Red 01 0010
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0597; Hulk, Red 01 0011
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0598; Hulk, Red 01 0012
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0599; Hulk, Red 01 0013
Hulk, The Incredible 01 0600


The Incredible Hulk Volume 1 Issue # 0600
(Hulk, The Incredible 01 0600)

As I said, Hulk Volume 1, Issue # 14 continues on its merry way as a separate title, while The Incredible Hulk Volume 1, Issue # 601 does the same.

HULK TIRED OF ALL THIS COUNTING … HULK SLEEP NOW
So … there you have it. Some degree of sense made out of the seemingly 'put a bunch of names and numbers in a hat and draw 'em out at random' method of naming, numbering and publishing comics that Marvel has. At least for The Hulk, anyway …

And no wonder The Hulk's so grumpy all the time … ! He's been trying to figure all this numbering shit out!

CREDITS
The following sites (and the work of the people who contributed to them) were invaluable in the research for this post:

Comic Book Resources forums – Hulk #600?
Comic Vine – The Incredible Hulk
Wikipedia – Tales to Astonish
Wikipedia – Hulk
Comic Vine – The Incredible Hercules
Marvel Wikia – Red Hulk

A NOTE ON MY PARTICULAR NAMING CONVENTION:
Throughout this post, I've written the particulars of a comic a particular way – e.g., The Incredible Hulk Volume 1 Issue # 1 – followed by my own particular (though not unique, I'm sure) naming convention – e.g., Hulk, The Incredible 01 0001.

Obviously the '01' indicates the Volume and the '0001' indicates the number. And computers like it when you put zeroes in front of things … they seem to have trouble counting then you don't.

This is for no other reason that to help me catalogue my collection of comics on my computer (and no, I don't have Issue # 1 of The Incredible Hulk 😆 ).

You see, like most characters in comics, in The Hulk there's an awful lot of side-issues, one-shots, related comics and team ups, etc., that don't fit into the normal numbering system. Take the Red Hulk mentioned above, for instance. Do I put this in a database (okay, a spreadsheet sorted alphabetically) under 'R' for 'Red Hulk' (Red Hulk 01 0014), where it can rub shoulders with Robocop and Ronin? Or do I try to tie in like characters by putting it under Hulk, Red 01 0014 (for example). Given that there is (as I mentioned above) an awful lot of crossing over between these characters (see the Fall of the Hulks checklist below for an easy – and typical – example) and being the obsessive-compulsive that I am, I choose to put it under Hulk, Red 01 0014.


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44 responses to “Hulk Have Trouble Counting

  1. David, while I appreciate the effort you put into making this post, I must tell you that I have no idea what it's about. I just know my head is spinning from 10 gazillion numbers here and I'll just agree with you on general principles and make my way back to where I'm not drowning in numbers.

  2. Not to mention two separate volumes of Rampaging Hulk, one a magazine, one not.You know, I'm pretty sure that they dropped the incredible for a while during the run of Tales to Astonish/Incredible Hulk volume one. And let's not even start on the Invisibles, where the last year had the series counting backwards.

  3. Screw the comics. Check a review then wait for the hardback if it's worth it. :up: That's what I'm doing with Civil War, but there appears to be three books so far.

  4. Linda,:lol: It's all good. This post started out as me doing nothing more than trying to figure out what was going on between Issues 587 and 600 (for my catloguing) and it kind of ran away from me. Once I'd gathered all the information, though, I had the idea that it might be helpful for other people if I put it online (admittedly a very small, targeted group of people 😆 ), so I 'articled it up' and posted it. :)Darko,Good point! :lol:Gavin,You know your comics! I made a deliberate decision to only focus on The Incredible Hulk comics, though. Otherwise, the obsessive-compulsive in me would've felt it necessary to include all the spin offs … Future Imperfect, The End, Let the Battle Begin, Fall of the Hulks Alpha, Fall of the Hulks Gamma, Dark Reign: The List, -1: Flashback, Hulk vs PITT, Hulk vs Superman, all those issues of Defenders and Avengers he was in, for example). And … um … I couldn't be arsed. :lol:Mik,That's the trouble with the 'Events' (crossovers) these days – there's so damn many tie-ins, etc., that – even with the Trade Paperbacks – you still have to fork out quite a bit of money to get the full story. And they've been coming thick and fast over the last couple of years, too: (Not necessarily in order) World War Hulk, Civil War, Secret Invasion, The Initiative (another title spinning off from the Civil War story), Dark Reign, Siege, Fall of the Hulks, World War Hulks … and that's just Marvel!

    I've tried to whittle things down to half a dozen over the last couple of years, but it's getting impossible to keep up. Take Hulk for instance. If I want the whole story, I have to buy Hulk, Incredible Hulk, Fall of the Hulks Alpha, Fall of the Hulks Gamma, Hulked-Out Heroes, etc. And that's just from one bloody title! Gah!

    I think I'll definitely be looking into more and more collected editions in the future (which ties me neatly into my next point) …

    Still, Marvel and DC are doing great things by publishing those Essential Marvel, Marvel Masterworks, DC Archive Edition Showcase Presents books, providing affordable collections of some of the earliest issues. Things like that are the best way for us non-millionaire types to be able to see early works by the likes of Jack Kirby, George Tuska and Curt Swan, Steve Ditko, Sal Buscema, etc.

    In fact, I love collected editions in general. There's a series of books out now of old cartoons, each one covering a year of them (The Complete Peanuts, for instance).

    Gavin,
    (Have you tried looking behind your books? 😉 )

    Now that's the way of the future (and very much affordable)! And just look at some of the ones that are available! 40 Years of X-Men! I haven't got any of them, but I've seen 'em for sale (and will get 'em in the future, I suspect). What format is it in? All together like a website, or a series of .cbr/.cbz archives?

  5. Mik,I missed you there in between posting a reply to Gavin and it turning up. Is that comics you're talking about, or the old animated series (which was so much better compared to the latest one, IMO … )?Gavin,Well, we're just glad you're not so Thor you can hardly pith. :whistle: Or are we?! :eyes: 😆

  6. Originally posted by clean:

    Well, we're just glad you're not so Thor you can hardly pith. Or are we?!

    Hardly. I'm a good boy. :angel:

  7. Thor? Or Transformers? And – if Thor – is that Thor as in Journey into Mystery? 'Cause they were really cool (I've seen the odd reprint here and there – in the 80s and 90s there were a lot of comics reprinted in Australia on newsprint in black and white; three issues in one for a dollar – good value).

  8. Originally posted by garlingmatthews:

    Who cares if it's first print?

    Couldn't agree more! It's the stories that are most important. I've got comics here that have the covers literally falling off because I've read the things … :lol:Originally posted by garlingmatthews:

    By the way, if you want those D.V.D.-ROMs, get them A.S.A.P. They are permanently out of print now, because Marvel elected to go with the website version instead.

    In the words of the Internet:

  9. By the way, if you want those D.V.D.-ROMs, get them A.S.A.P. They are permanently out of print now, because Marvel elected to go with the website version instead.

  10. :lol:It's interesting how people think of a particular character. You mentioned above the Tales to Astonish issues with Giant Man, but called him Ant Man. And, of course, if you were to go to the Wikipedia page on Herny Pym, you'd see a picture of Yellowjacket. 😆 I got the early Ghost Rider in the Essential Marvel from the library. Also some of the Avengers, an early Superman collection and some early Batman stuff. Comics Publishers? Letting your collected editions go to libraries are a good idea! If it wasn't for me finding those books there, I'd never have known about 'em (or put 'em on 'my list' to buy one day).

  11. Transformers; and yes, that Thor. They did Hulk, (including the Antman halves!), Spider-man, Uncanny X-men, Fantastic Four (inc. Silver Surfer), Captain America, Iron Man and… Ghost Rider. Film tie in. And there was a Civil War disc. Those I have. There's also a disc with the first seventy issues of Ultimate X-Men, but, eh. There's also a Star Trek disc with all of the original series Trek stories over all the different publishers… but you can only buy that if you live in America.Yes, I too am a nerd.

  12. You know what; I have F.F. twice, because they re-issued it with the whole of the Silver Surfer. Do you want the earlier one?

  13. David, what I can contribute here is the fact that in the 50s, comic books were so popular that everyone collected them. When we finished reading, we'd take them to someone else who had a big collection and swap out. Sometimes trading got rather heated because owner would want too many comic books for a certain one they might have. I had stack of comic books about 18" high. Wish I had those comics now—they'd probably be worth some money to collectors. But that's one of the pastimes that occupied kids in the 50s. Instead of doing drugs and playing video games, we read, collected and swapped comic books. The innocent age

  14. Hey! Those drugs and videogames are the only thing that stop me declaring communism as a death sentence crime. :p

  15. so,that's how you learned your numbers ! :lol:Is this your longest post,or I missed any over the years? :lol:Have an awesome week! :yes:

  16. Gavin,Oh, if I bloody have to. :whistle: (Check your inbox 😆 ).Linda,My Mum says the same sort of thing; whe she was a kid she knew people who had little sheds full of comics just scattered all over the floor; they used to walk on them to get from one pile to the other (and, I have to admit, when I was a kid back in the 70s, I kind of used to do the same thing 😆 ).And so many of them were so much more affordable back then and had so much more content, too! Where are the '100 Page Specials' today, of either Monsters Among Us (for boys) or Katy Keene (for girls), for instance? 😆 :sherlock:They are out there and, you're right, they are worth something nowadays (depending on the condition, of course). Which is why the 'back issues' are so hard to get (and why the concept of Trade Paperbacks and Collected Editions and DVDs are so awesome!)Mik,Communists everywhere are thanking nostalgia as you read this. :lol:Angeliki,:lol: I also picked up quite a lot of my vocabulary from comics, too (well, I read a lot – not just comics – from an early age, because my parents taught me to read before I started school and made it something to enjoy as opposed to something that 'had to be learned' as in school) … OW!BOM!BLAM!CRASH!THWIPP!ZZZTTTT!KA-PLASH!AAARRGHHH!HULK SMASH!RAKOVLAMMMM!You know … things you can work into conversation on a daily basis … :lol:You have a lovely week, too! :heart:

  17. Not even. It's never sold very well. The concept is so limited. But it's had so gifted writers who've down some interesting stuff from time to time. Bill Mantlo, Peter David, not John Byrne, not John Byrne again… STICK TO PENCILING YOU TWAT!!!

  18. There have definitely been some awesome writers on the Hulk. And … uh … inexplicable drops in writing quality, too. * climbs up on soapbox *We've had the best characterization of the Hulk in ages with 'The Green Scar' of World War Hulk, yet he suddenly disappears (too powerful, could 'split the planet in half with his rage') and we're left with 'Hulk Smash' again? And years of 'Who is the Red Hulk?' to replace it? :yuck: It's like what happened to Spider-Man with One More Day; the best thing to happen to a character who fundamentally hadn't changed in decades (the whole 'totemistic powers/organic webbing/expansion of powers' thing), and Quesada decides he wants to retro it all back to the sixties! :doh: :eyes:(And I still can't figure out how he inhabits a world where he's unmarried Peter Parker who nobody knows is Spider-Man one month, yet is still Peter Parker, whom everyone knows is Spider-Man after being unmasked during Civil War the next month). :rolleyes:* climbs down; takes deep breaths to calm down a little; moves on *Ahh, John Byrne! I've been a huge fan of his throughout the years (yes, one of the 'faithful 50,000' at one stage), though I do think his greatest gifts lie with pencilling and inking (well, these days, he can ink without doing the pencils first 😆 ). Still, his writing is better than Todd McFarlane's back in the day …"This … is Spider-Man!His powers?Amazing!"(Took him two pages to do that). :doh: :lol:And I do love the concepts Byrne comes up with for a lot of his stories. One of the old FF stories, The Quest, for instance, was an awesome idea: FF meets some aliens in the Negative Zone in a generational ship. Most are frozen, but a handful have been thawed out to keep things going.Reed finds a planet for them, exactly like the one they came from. Trouble is, the aliens got so used to the conditions on the ship, the new planet is anathema to them. Yet it's perfect for the greater number of aliens still in the fridge.Of course, the handful of aliens in charge refuse to hear it ("Kestorians do not evolve") and they leave, unlikely to ever complete their quest, because they're unlikely to ever find a planet that matches their ideal. (There's more to the story, but that's the guts of it.)

  19. And the clone debacle. Yes. There's been some great stuff and a lot of crap.John is a great penciler, and has written some great stuff. I perhaps got stuck on his lousy Hulk reboot and his lousy Spider-man reboot, chapter one.

  20. :doh: The Clone Saga … :faint:Y'know, I've gotta say, aside from making Aunt May a little more 'hip', I didn't really see that much that was different about his 'retelling' of the Spider-Man story … :confused:My favourites of his with the Hulk were way back in that short run he had in the 300s … well, 316 to be precise – big ol' super-hero battle with the Hulk, Iron Man (the best art I'd ever seen on the old Red and White armor), Wonder Man, Hercules, The Sub-Mariner and … um … Doc Samspon. :eyes:Still, I'd be more than happy to see him to a Hulk vs Thing Battle Royale Special Hulk-Sized Issue (without any filler) before he retires. Ah, well … I can dream … 😆

  21. It just wasn'tvery good. Stick beside batman year one.Hmm. Have to check that out when I go home!I liked his Superman a lot.

  22. Batman Year One! Now there's a comic! :up:Yep, I liked his run on Superman, too. One of the conditions he gave DC for working on it was that he had complete autonomy to do what he wanted, and I think it worked:One lone rock of green kryptonite that lodged in his ship as he left Krypton (no multicoloured rocks)Superman's powers didn't really kick in until he was almost an adult (no super-baby!)Finding himself battling his 'Bizarro' self (who did not come from a cubed planet), he realized he was at a disadvantage: for so long he'd been ultra-careful to use his powers around people, and found he was subconsciously pulling his punches during the battle. Not being able to fly so fast he 'broke the time barrier'. That sort of thing.I quite enjoyed Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns, too (though the second one not so much). Miller's done some awesome stuff over the years (Daredevil, Sin City, Ronin, etc). There's been some criticism of his work as a director, but nothing to overshadow his excellent comic work.One of the most impressive things I found about Miller was a quote in an ad for the Joe Kubert School of Design. Basically he was recommending people to join up because they'd learn to expand their abilities, to grow. He finished with, "I will", indicating that he wasn't content to stay where he was, but to continue to grow as an artist. He didn't come across as one of these, "Well, I've done great sales-wise … feel fortunate I'm still in the game, peons" types. 😆 Another one I quite enjoyed was Garth Ennis and Steve Dillon on Preacher. And, of course, mentioning them hearkens back to the days of 2000 AD with Judge Dredd, Rogue Trooper and Strontium Dog among my favourites.Another artist I quite liked was Paul Neary. He worked on Captain America for a while and his art improved with each issue. Unfortunately (because I lost track of his work) he went on to an Editorial position at Marvel UK. Oh, well …

  23. Dark Knight was great. I haven't read the second one yet. I like most of his stuff. Neary drew for Marvel U.K. as well, I seem to remember. What could that have been? Black Knight, I think! In the old Captain Britain weekly. Great stuff. I remember his and Gruenwald's run well, it was great, although it tailed off a bit I thought. I never liked Ennis at 2000 AD, but he improved. Jamie Delano. Rocks.We're definitely nerds. 😮

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